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Experimental High School Web Dialogue
James R. Davis
Boston University Academy
Hugh Taft-Morales
Edmund Burke High School
1. Introduction
Unlike most college philosophy students, high school philosophers
rarely have a chance to engage in Socratic dialogue with anyone
outside their own classroom. They have few schoolmates familiar
with traditional academic vocabulary or engaged in the philosophic
quest. Already labeled as antiquated and unconnected with contemporary
society, academic philosophy must counter this false image and present
itself as vibrant, international, and current. One way to do this
is to engage students in philosophical discussions on the Internet.
As philosophy teachers in high school, the authors realize how familiar
our students are with virtual discussions via e-mail and chat rooms.
But we are concerned about the lack of academic guidance evident
in many of these discussions. Search for "metaphysics"
on the web and you will turn up more sites for the sale of crystals
than references to Plato or Hegel. So, with little technical know-how,
we launched an experimental dialogue between two groups of students,
each in a different philosophy class, separated by hundreds of miles.
In this paper, the authors will provide an overview of our web dialogue
and then discuss its benefits and problems. Whereas there are many
other ways to stimulate philosophical dialogue among students, a
web dialogue serves as a useful pedagogical tool that can not only
supplement traditional discussion techniques within an individual
class, but also can allow philosophy students to engage other students
outside of their own classroom and even outside of their own school.
Furthermore, web discussions energized our students, who are often
excited by the inclusion of the Internet in their classes. The authors
conclude this paper with some proposals for future implementation
of web dialogues.
2. How it Worked
Thanks to the APA web page on Pre-College Instruction (www.udel.edu/apa/)
and the help of technology coordinator Chris Clement, it was easier
than we expected. A mystery to us, the technology used was, in his
words, "quite simple, actually." The webmaster set up
a web page with a discussion text and an e-mail link listed at the
bottom of the page. Students could write a passage and submit it
through the e-mail link, but, before being posted by the webmaster,
their essay could also be edited by the instructor. Students could
then read the postings and reply. The site was created and maintained
with a software package called Microsoft FrontPage 98 and hosted
on a Windows NT 4.0 Server running the Microsoft Internet Information
Server 4.0.
Two different introductory philosophy classes at two high schools
over 300 miles apart were involved. The first class, hereafter called
class A, had just finished the ethics portion of the course and
had begun studying metaphysics. Three students volunteered to engage
in the web dialogue from class A. The second class, or class B,
consisted of five students and had just started studying ethics.
Class B also had to work within institutionally imposed homework
restrictions; since the class was an elective, the instructor could
assign no more than an hour of homework per week. It was therefore
more practical to pick a topic already covered by A and part of
B's present curriculum. This would minimize the homework for class
B, while allowing the volunteers from class A to return to a familiar
topic without weekly classroom reinforcement or guidance. We therefore
agreed on discussing moral relativism.
In order to focus the discussion, the instructors chose two specific
articles, Ruth Benedict's "A Defense of Moral Relativism,"
and W. T. Stace's article from The Concept of Morals as found in
James Gould's text, Classic Philosophical Questions, under the title
"Ethics are Not Relative." Students read or reread both
articles and considered three focus questions: (1) what are Ruth
Benedict's basic reasons for accepting normative moral relativism;
(2) what are the best arguments offered by Stace to critique normative
moral relativism; and, (3) what are some of the best counter-arguments
a relativist could offer in response to the best arguments offered
by Stace? These three focus questions would serve as the jumping
off point of the discussion.
After reading the articles, the web dialogue followed four steps.
First, each student of class B wrote his or her own answers to the
three focus questions. The students then came together, presented
their individual answers to their peers, and combined the best insights
into a group response. This procedure encouraged students to make
convincing argument for the inclusion or exclusion of any particular
point. Second, the students submitted their joint essay to the instructor,
who made minor editorial changes and submitted the essay to Chris
Clement, who posted the paper on the APA web site. Third, class
B electronically accessed this posting and used it, and whatever
new material they had learned in the interim, to compose a response,
thereby starting the process all over again. New focus questions
were not written for each posted response; rather the responses
alone served as material for the future discussions and postings.
In this way, a series of three essays from each class were posted,
with each new submission starting with the latest response posted
at the APA site. The actual debate has been archived at the APA
web site. The address to see the entire web dialogue is http://www.apa.udel.edu/apa/governance/committees/pre-college/discussion1.html.
3. Benefits of the Discussion
The most obvious benefit of this project was that it energized the
students. They launched into the discussions about the latest response
instantly, without the need for the teacher to prod or encourage.
The instructor's role was much more that of a coach, directing and
suggesting how to best represent their thinking. It also encouraged
students to think in terms of possible objections to their own positions,
getting them to think, as in a chess game, "a few steps ahead"
of the current discussion.
Another benefit was that it allowed students to investigate a specific
issue for an extended period of time and allowed them to make connections
with classroom topics that did not have immediate and obvious application
to the current discussion. For example, students became more attuned
to what made up a solid argument. They would make analogies to the
arguments being made in the present reading or by students in discussion
from the weak and strong arguments used in the web dialogue. In
essence, the web dialogue provided a storehouse of shared examples
of critical thinking that students frequently referred to throughout
the rest of the course. Additionally, the dialogue became more a
part of the life of the class and was more supportive of the course's
teaching goals. Since ethical relativism would be the Internet topic
throughout the term, the on-line discussion guided and focused subsequent
readings on moral philosophy that were not directly responding to
either Benedict or Stace. For example, when reading Kant, students
wanted to discuss the plausibility of basing morality on rationality
in light of Benedict's claim that morality could no longer be deduced
from a conception of human nature. The on-line discussion therefore
not only encouraged students to make their own connections between
various readings, but also allowed them to contribute actively and
eagerly to the overall focus of the unit on moral philosophy.
In the case of class B, the on-line discussion also had benefits
within the classroom. The virtual discussion added coherence to
classroom discussion because the overarching, on-going theme of
relativism provided an intellectual focus for all other discussions.
Whether they were concerned with consequences versus duty, the relationship
between morality and the good life, or the possibility of ethics
in a godless universe, students often held in the back of their
minds how the current topic would help them in the next on-line
response. Far from detracting from the current topic, students tended
to ask more insightful questions. The on-line discussion vividly
illustrated for them the interconnection of the various readings
without the instructor having to persuade them that such connections
really existed. Students also began to make connections with other
classes, especially their English class, which was reading Macbeth
at the time. They tended to treat moral philosophy as a living issue,
instead of an ossified intellectual problem.
In the case of class A, where only some of the students participated
in the Internet discussions, the web dialogue still benefited even
the bystanders. First, all students, whether participating or not,
could access the web page, read the discussions, and bring up objections
and comments at the beginning of class. Second, as already noted
above, the web dialogue provided even non-participants with a storehouse
of critical thinking examples that they could discuss and apply
in class as they struggled with new philosophical positions and
arguments.
Although we encountered technical and practical problems implementing
our web dialogue, we were nevertheless encouraged by the energy
and enthusiasm it instilled in our students, so much so that we
look forward to another on-line discussion this fall. Before discussing
our approach to a second web dialogue however, we must first explain
more fully some of these problems.
4. Problems with This First Attempt
Some obvious problems presented themselves even before we started
the dialogue. First, since the two classes were not covering the
same material at the same time, it was more difficult to focus the
students, especially those in class A. Also, this group, without
the benefit of much class time, found it more difficult to meet
since they had to find time outside of class. Related to this problem
is that of arranging a more consistent, and longer, series of postings.
Practical limitations ended the discussion after a total of six
responses. The discussion therefore ended abruptly without the benefit
of concluding remarks from either side.
Another problem was finding the ideal size of the work group. Class
A, working with two to three students per response, had a good dynamic.
Class B, having five students crafting one response, had a more
difficult time. Because this group met only twice a week, time constrained
the students' efforts to cooperate on a response. With five students
writing one response, it was difficult to get all of them together
outside of class. The instructor tried two methods in order to eliminate
the need for students meeting on their own time. First, he had them
jointly write the essay in class, but this approach consumed far
too much class time and bored all concerned. Second, he allowed
students to write individual essays as homework and then, using
e-mail, the instructor and students worked together to cut and paste
representative points from each essay. Although this method was
more expedient, students nevertheless felt the process to be too
impersonal and a few felt somewhat alienated from the process.
Finally, the most interesting problem we confronted was that the
dialogue turned more into a sophistical debate rather than into
a philosophical inquiry. We had some hope that students from different
schools would actually work together to examine these articles and
pick out the best elements of Staces and Benedict's arguments. Perhaps
we could even develop a consensus concerning relativism. Instead,
students offered their argument, and anticipated and received an
"attack" on their position. Class B sometimes deliberately
used ad hominem and other informal fallacies in an attempt to provoke
class A. Such abusive techniques were usually edited out before
posting. At times they wrote more like sophists, who are interested
in winning an argument, than philosophers, who are interested in
finding the "truth." While the debate format has its strengths,
this degenerative, combative model did not necessarily support our
project's goal of offering our students a community of inquiry via
the Internet.1
We believe this confrontational and occasionally sophistical mode
of dialogue occurred for a number of reasons. First, choosing two
articles that opposed each other presented the students with a black-and-white
debate model. Being so familiar with this model, students assumed
we were looking for them to mimic this polarization. Second, the
students felt that they were talking to a "faceless enemy"
devoid of the human characteristics that nurture collegial relationships
and networks. There was no direct one-on-one discussion between
students, which can be one of the strengths of Internet conversations.
Since teachers acted as filters for student comments, there was
less of the spontaneity that adds a more human touch to other Internet
discussions. Third, Internet bulletin boards can encourage "flaming,"
which are malicious postings consisting mostly of ad hominem arguments.
In the case of class B, the students, who were around fourteen years
old, occasionally had to be reminded that the point was genuine
inquiry and strongly encouraged to edit out provoking and combative
remarks. Undoubtedly the impersonal nature of Internet communication
encourages such attitudes among less serious philosophy students.2
5. Prospects for Improvement in a Second Project
Both instructors found the experiment successful: web dialogues
stimulate in-class discussions and increase student enthusiasm for
the material. Although we have nowhere advocated web dialogues as
a substitution for traditional in-class discussions, we nevertheless
have shown that web dialogues can profitably supplement more traditional
techniques.
Given some tinkering with the process, we are confident that a web
dialogue will enhance our teaching. Despite some time restrictions
to class B, we would recommend include a longer time period for
the discussion to evolve. We believe that a trade-off between the
number of topic covered and engaging in a longer debate is justified
in light of the benefits we observed in the students' ability to
engage in quality philosophical discourse. We would also recommend
a more definite schedule of replies. This would allow for more responses
that might be shorter in length and more focused in content. Another
change to explore is to allow a component of the discussion to be
one-on-one, perhaps as a lead-up to group work on a response. If
each student had a partner at the other school with whom he or she
could chat informally about the issues raised in the latest response,
the value of spontaneous and informal Internet dialogue would be
put to better use. Imagine, late at night, two students chatting
about the Allegory of the Cave by the glow of their computer screens.
It has the flavor of the café, without the smoke or the dangers
of the street. Another related idea might be the linking "philosophy
clubs" at different schools. This would give students the opportunity
for serious philosophical inquiry without strict moderation from
instructors. The classroom curriculum moves so quickly that perhaps
a more leisurely electronic dialogue would better fit the natural
pace of philosophical reflection.
While the one-on-one or philosophy club option might de-emphasize
the confrontational flavor of the dialogue, a final change that
might address this problem is to make the issue of confrontation
explicit and ask the students to address it. If the purpose of the
project is to help create a virtual community of philosophical thinkers
working together, then we might ask the students themselves to suggest
the best ways to accomplish this goal. Many of our students are
ahead of their teachers regarding access and use of the Internet.
Why not assume those students can address substantive process issues?
A more cooperative teaching relationship might allow us all, teachers
and students, to roam the virtual Agora as true Socratic teachers.3
Footnotes
1. The authors, of course, wanted students to argue critically for
their viewpoint, since we believe that this is one the principal
values of a philosophical education. Unfortunately, the specter
of "making the lesser argument the stronger" became more
prevalent as the dialogue wore on. In essence, we wanted students
to argue with being argumentative for the sake of it.
2. The instructors discussed whether gender might have played a
part in the confrontational style that evolved, and we wondered
how gender influenced the use of technology. Both instructors, and
seven of the eight students involved, were male. Although our evidence
is purely anecdotal and we recognize the need for continued rigorous
studies, the authors' classroom experience has shown them that boys
more often embrace this confrontational model than girls and that
boys are more comfortable with the impersonal flavor of some Internet
interaction. Even if, however, some students prefer to be more aggressive
and sophistical, perhaps web dialogues and other Internet resources
could help encourage a number of kinds of students, who sometimes
are closed out of the classroom. For example, some writers on technology
and gender point out that sometimes adolescent females, who are
less likely to speak out in classroom discussions, are more likely
to interact on a computer. Body language, subtle intimidation, and
social judgments that may deter shy students from participating
are all less a part of electronic dialogue. Some researchers have
also found that the increased communication that the Internet allows
appeals to girls even more than boys. If so, the real issue is not
the technology, but the use to which it is put.
Cf. Cornelia Brunner and Dorothy Bennett distinguish between "technology
as hardware and database," which appeals generally to males,
and "technology as a means to communication," which appeals
more to females. See "Technology and Gender: Differences in
Masculine and Feminine Views," The National Association of
Secondary School Principals Bulletin 81, 592 (1997), 46-51.
Additionally, one of us presented a seminar at the American Association
of Philosophy Teachers' 11th International Biennial Workshop-Conference
on Teaching Philosophy, which discussed the uses of e-mail in large
lecture-room classes. The presenter noted that female students far
more often sent E-mail containing questions and comments to the
instructor than male students. As these students became more comfortable
on-line, they became more confident in classroom discussions because
E-mail provides a safer forum for airing their views, out of the
sight of their classmates. The presenter has had similar experiences
in smaller classes.
3. An additional article dealing with establishing philosophical
dialogue using the web is Lawrence Hinman, "The Virtual Seminar
Room," Teaching Philosophy 19, 4 (1996), 319-328.
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